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30,000 UK Soul Survivors Sing Mike Guglielmucci Healer

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It seems that the shock and disappointment surrounding the news of Mike Guglielmucci’s announcement has stretched far beyond Planetshakers, far beyond Australia, and made it to the other side of the globe – to the UK where it hit the headlines, and 30,000 “Soul Survivor” conference attendees hard.

From Gush:

Hey guys.

Thought I’d drop by and give you an idea of how this is affecting things over in the UK. Unfortunately over the past month or So Mike’s story has really hit the headlines, primarily through the Soul Survivor youth event where over 30,000 young Christians have been praying for Mike’s healing from cancer, watching the videos of his recording, and singing the song “Healer”. I fear that there is going to be some really tough fall-out from this.

When we returned from Soul Survivor last week, we played Mike’s “Healer” story and video to our youth congregation in our church in the UK. Last Sunday, one of our young female worship leaders from our youth church sang “Healer” to our main congregation of around 500 and told them all about Mike’s battle with cancer. She’s an amazing young woman with great gifting and a profound heart for God, and it’s for her, and those like her that i fear.

I agree that everyone makes mistakes, and I agree that none are sinless, but with great power comes great responsibility, and leaders are called to increased purity, integrity and relationship with God. The biggest difference in this instance is that Mike’s deception was not only public, but was publicised! He was not living secret lies or even hiding his other life, but was publicly promoting his lies and making more and more material about his battle! Releasing statements and videos to spread the lies all over the world.

I am genuinely concerned for the man. And my heart weeps for those close to him who have been let down so badly. But I am so glad that this has ended now. The trouble is that many of us, even on the other side of the world, with no fanfare, public rallies or celebrity endorsement are going to be left picking up the pieces and mentoring so many young Christians who feel that the man they trusted and who had inspired them so much in their faith was essentially a fraud.

God forgive me if I judge too harshly, and heal the wounds of all concerned. Me included.

This was the heartbreaking bit for me:

The trouble is that many of us… are going to be left picking up the pieces and mentoring so many young Christians who feel that the man they trusted and who had inspired them so much in their faith was essentially a fraud.

Are you like me? Does your heart go out to all of those young people, and the pastors who will care for them?

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  1. Yes, my heart goes out to young Christians who may not have a strong foundation for their faith and who will be greatly impacted by this. Over the years I have seen many young people slowly slide away after becoming hurt or disillusioned with the people who are leading/influencing them.

    I pray that churches are giving their young people solid bible teaching and foundations that will stay strong no matter what they encounter. But I see that the focus of some youth groups is either just having fun, or big events focusing on emotional worship and young people are not getting strong foundations.

    NV

    August 27, 2008 at 10:07 am

  2. My heart does go out to the number of young Christians that have or will have been affected by this. But this only shows how there are a number of people out there who base their faith not PRIMARILY on God’s Word but to the ‘celebrities’ of Christian worship.

    Unfortunately, that is the problem today where the people seek instant gratification in all walks of life. So when there is a massive concert, people flock to, get saved and then go back to their normal lives. And the fact that human nature to “see and feel” God that they put idols in their lives.

    No doubt that Mike G. will be accountable for his actions to God for what he has done and what he has failed to do.

    And to those Christians that were deeply affected by this: you need to ask the question – Who do I really believe in – Jesus Christ or the person on the platform?

    NV: Youth groups have fun events to get the numbers going. Then numbers fall off when you start getting serious with God and the Word. And then this is viewed as a failure. I think this is a wrong perception prevalent in many churches today – numbers is a measurement of success and growth. God never gave a minimum quota but rather He just said to “GO and make disciples of all nations”

    We as a church need to get rid of this “NUMBERS” mentality and focus more on the needs of the individual rather than our own church image.

    mike

    August 27, 2008 at 10:44 am

  3. For those who have looked on what Mike has done and said, “Oh, what a terrible thing,” or “Oh, what a terrible man!” With love and respect, I can only say one thing to you. Get over it. The Bible says that no temptation has seized you except what is COMMON to man. That means that the “secret” sin you have isn’t so secret. We all struggle with it. It’s COMMON. Every single human being is capable of ANY sin at ANY time given the right circumstances. There is not ONE of us who can look down on Mike and say, “Oh how terrible.” Don’t you realize that mercy triumphs over judgment? Don’t you realize that when Mike stands before Jesus to give an account for his life that the SAME BLOOD that covers YOUR sins will cover HIS? Don’t you realize our God is a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and ABOUNDING in love? Guys, we were all conceived in a sinful mother’s womb, we were all born into a sinful world. We’ve ALL fallen into temptation after temptation. But God’s grace covers us! So before you condemn Mike for his “oh so terrible” acts, know that the blood that forgives you forgives him as well. Don’t you dare pick up the first stone.

    Mike, we love you brother. Be free!

    Matthew Connor
    connah@gmail.com

    Matthew Connor

    August 27, 2008 at 2:52 pm

  4. In my first experience of youth leadership I had the ‘pleasure’ of serving with a Youth Pastor who skipped the state and ended up charged with rape – turns out that this was the second time but no one had done their homework prior to his appointment.
    Very few of the kids we were discipling have continued to walk with Christ. I believe that a large part of the reason is that the rest of us in leadership didn’t have a clue how to respond – youth leaders tend to be young, inexperienced and immature!
    I hope and pray that the wiser leaders of today will give clear guidance for those who are picking up the pieces on the ground.

    Cath Neville

    August 27, 2008 at 4:52 pm

  5. In following from Cath Neville, my question is how DO youth leaders respond to the fall out?

    How do we minister to those who have been hurt by this?

    Yes yes, senior leadership should take more responsibility etc,

    However my immediate concern is how do we meet the needs of those suffering?

    Grace

    August 27, 2008 at 5:52 pm

  6. Grace, these are the reasons why all those in leadership need to be adequately skilled up to a high level, not just a ministry qualification, but basic(if not advanced) interpersonal, counselling and group dynamics/facilitation education. And to the same standard that other services have set, and for some areas they are bound by law to maintain that standard.
    Just b/c its the church, it doesn’t mean they/we are somehow exempt from holding a high standard when it comes to interacting with pple, no matter how brief.
    If anything, shouldn’t we have the highest standards, considering many of our members have walked broken and hurt lives….don’t we owe it to all to provide the best resources and trained leaders to assist those in need?
    Its inappropriate to put well meaning but basically untrained pple in these roles; the wider community and government have adopted educational strategies for a reason, whilst they are aware of the importance, the church continues in ignorant bliss, miles behind the standard practice for these things, still wondering why the outcome is the way it is, when the reasons have been known and studied for decades.

    The church has made progress, though at a snails pace.

    Anyways, I still love planetshakers and pray for my church, esp that these issues amongst others will be addressed one day, once it starts, other areas in need of attention will become apparent.

    Mice

    August 27, 2008 at 10:10 pm

  7. Btw I find it frustrating that basic qualified secular counsellors could assist those in need more than leadership; especially in this day and age.
    It just doesn’t need to be like this 😦

    Mice

    August 27, 2008 at 10:18 pm


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